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Susan Prince turned us on to this West Bend Bread Maker:
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Originally posted by Susan Prince:
Posted December 14, 2006 11:10 PM
Hi all-

I've been busying buying a new rig, so haven't hung around much here at the forums, my apologies in not answering sooner.

M&M: I got my "Just For Dinner" at Amazon. It's made by West Bend.

lorna_w: I don't think there's a smaller Nissan. The cooking pot is actually much smaller than might think- it's about 3 quarts. You can cook smaller portions if you want to, but you will have to take the pot out once or even twice to re-heat it during cooking time. This is because the smaller portions won't have as much thermal mass as a full pot, and will cool off faster. But even doing it this way still saves a ton of propane.

I haven't tried the mashed potatoes idea, but now that you've mentioned it, I will! Big Grin

geysergazers: Yes, I've really given the breadmaker a workout and am now departing from the standard recipes. Try any of the cheese breads, they are particularly good. The Feta bread with olives--oh, fantastico!

I find I still buy bread in between baking sessions...because no bread machine bread can get that crusty french bread or sourdough style. But it's a good feeling to know I can whip up a loaf anytime I want to---and in only 45 minutes!

Because it bakes so fast, some people feel that the J-F-D breadmaker turns out a yeasty tasting loaf. I tend to agree with that. If I have the time, this is how I change the yeastiness:

1. Cut back on the yeast to just 1 1/2tsp. and put it in the pan FIRST (not last the way the instructions tell you to) along with the warmed liquid. I give this a little time to "bloom" before adding other ingredients.

2. Sometimes I allow the bread to rise a second time. Just unplug the machine after the first "beeps"--and let it sit a little while. Then, start the machine again from the beginning. You can also just take the dough out of the machine, place it into a convential bread pan, and allow it to continue rising. Then bake in the regular oven.

Good luck y'all!

Susan

This summer we have it with us in Ms Dolphin. Remember that this little machine makes a 750kcal Loaf in just 45Min start to finish but that it is pretty Yeasty tasting. We learned a tricky trick to making Whole wheat bread in it which is to add 1Tbs of Vital Wheat Gluten. It greatly improves the texture (more chewy and less Wonderbread-like), greatly reduces the yeasty-ness and adds Protein. We use 1/2 whole wheat/1/2 regular flour and forget the milk called for in the recipe and it makes a better loaf of Bread than any of the Supermarket "Bakery" product. This thing is the best thing since sliced bread. Big Grin

PIC on our BLOG Here

Lew


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Ms Dolphin, an '86 21Ft Toyota/Dolphin MH, 5900# Rolling, 125W Kyocera Solar, Lifeline Grp27 AGM

Growing older is so much more Fun than the only Alternative
 
Posts: 906 | Registered: October 03, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit MessageReport This Post
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The little "Just for Dinner" bread machine does work very well, but, unfortunately, the breadmaker doesn't seem to be manufactured anymore. Folks might be able to find a used one on Ebay.
 
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Rosita, you got one, didn't you? I'm going to try for another one on EBay as a spare. I don't know what I'll do when I wear this one out as we don't want big loaves more slowly, especially when RoVing for the Summer.

Lew


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Ms Dolphin, an '86 21Ft Toyota/Dolphin MH, 5900# Rolling, 125W Kyocera Solar, Lifeline Grp27 AGM

Growing older is so much more Fun than the only Alternative
 
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Rosita, you got one, didn't you?

Yes, I have one, but I bought it soon after they came out; I think that was a couple of years ago. You might check some of the bread-making machine websites/message boards, too; those folks might know where to pick one up.
 
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Hi Lew!

I'm glad you like the JFD. I still love mine. I feel exactly the same way--I don't know what I'll do when mine wears out. I too have considered getting a spare. If you can find one on eBay it generally sells for more now than it did new.

I will try your little trick with the wheat gluten. I've found using the "wheat" setting for everything, including white breads, is a positive thing. Longer rising time.

Recently I discovered buttermilk. Why this wonderful stuff eluded my notice before I will never know. Now, for baking, I use buttermilk almost exclusively. Try it in the JFD as the liquid. A favorite thing now is to use up leftover cornbread, I heat it up a little and pour buttermilk over the top and eat it like a pudding. I like honey with it. Yum yum yum!

A new little gadget I just became aware of it is an odd little tool resurrected from the 1950s called the Ovenette. It's a stove top baking oven with a thermostat in the lid. Pies, cakes, rolls, all can be baked atop the stove. So can a roast of meat, although I dont' think I'll do that with it.

Since I am soon downsizing to a B van, there will be no more oven to work with so the Ovenette will be the way I bake. I'll report back when I have some more experience under my belt with the Ovenette.

Thanks for the baking tip! Happy travels!
 
Posts: 102 | Location: Rural NY & on the road | Registered: October 17, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit MessageReport This Post
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And I will try your little trick with Buttermilk, Susan. Big Grin I can't wait for a PIC of the Ovenette.

Lew


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Growing older is so much more Fun than the only Alternative
 
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Do they still make ovenette's?


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Posts: 143 | Location: Texas (formerly Kansas) | Registered: July 28, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit MessageReport This Post
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Hi Larry and Alicia,

No, Ovenettes are not manufactured anymore, they were made in the 1950s. You have to wait for one to come up on Ebay and bid. They come up pretty regularly, but they are popular with the vintage camper crowd so they do get snapped up.

Here's a link from the Serro Scotty owner's website with a picture of the Ovenette. http://www.nationalserroscotty.org/resources/ovenette-recipes.html If you click on the "ovenette" button at the top, it takes you to a pdf file for the Ovenette manuals and recipes.

If you do find one one ebay, try to get one that is complete and has all the pans with it. Mine does not have the pans, only the oven parts and the elevated rack. These three items are the minimum you should consider with any Ovenette purchase, you can't function without those three pieces. But the pans can be substituted if need be.

I am scouting around for small round pans to use in my Oventte. The hardest thing to replicate seems to be the high sided roasting pan for meats, I just can't find something like that anywhere. But I did find a small, German-manufactured Bundt cake pan that is only 8 inches in diameter, basically half the size of a regular one. This will work great in the Ovenette. I am also looking for an 8" pizza pan , if there is such a thing.

I also like the idea of using the Ovenette at home in the summertime, avoiding the need to heat up the big oven just to make a pan of cornbread or bake some rolls. My plan is to use my JFD breadmaker to make yeast dough, and then use the Ovenette to make pizza, dinner rolls, and cinnamon buns. With a small round ceramic pan, you could bake enchiladas, casseroles, etc.

So...good luck finding yours!

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Posts: 102 | Location: Rural NY & on the road | Registered: October 17, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit MessageReport This Post
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Thanks, Susan. I had found the Sero Scotty site. Looks like a nifty idea, especially if your rig doesn't have an oven. I say that, knowing full well that if I lit my gas over I would be in grave danger of exploding dust bunnies. The micro/convection is just too convenient.


Larry & Alicia SKP 72871
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Posts: 143 | Location: Texas (formerly Kansas) | Registered: July 28, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit MessageReport This Post
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FYI there in one on E-Bay right now.


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Posts: 167 | Location: Madison, WI again till 10 Apr 09 | Registered: March 03, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit MessageReport This Post
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Last weekend I found one at acehardwaresuperstore.com. I know they've been discontinued, but there was no indication it was out of stock and they charged my credit card and sent a confirmation. I figured they had some old ones hanging around.

But then I didn't hear anything. Five days later, I checked on the status via email and they said my order had been cancelled and my account credited. Well, they hadn't notified me my order had been cancelled, and they hadn't credited my account.

It's all taken care of now, but I want to warn others about acehardwaresuperstore.com. Bad people.
 
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My favorite recipe for the "Just for Dinner":

1/2 cup warm water
1 tbsp melted butter or margarine
1 tbsp sugar
1/4 tsp salt
3/4 cup baker's flour
1/4 cup flax meal
1/4 cup whole rolled oats (*NOT* the quick-cook variety)
1 pkg quick-rising yeast

The dough should be a little on the dry side. If it looks wet and gummy, add a little baker's flour.


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